http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Edut_5770_Cheshvon_9&feed=atom&action=historyEdut 5770 Cheshvon 9 - Revision history2024-03-28T13:13:40ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.27.1http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Edut_5770_Cheshvon_9&diff=3989&oldid=prevBinyomin at 18:26, 7 August 20232023-08-07T18:26:34Z<p></p>
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</table>Binyominhttp://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Edut_5770_Cheshvon_9&diff=3532&oldid=prevBinyomin: /* See also */2010-02-02T12:27:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">See also</span></span></p>
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</table>Binyominhttp://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Edut_5770_Cheshvon_9&diff=2980&oldid=prevBinyomin at 17:38, 7 November 20092009-11-07T17:38:35Z<p></p>
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</table>Binyominhttp://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Edut_5770_Cheshvon_9&diff=2978&oldid=prevBinyomin at 17:06, 7 November 20092009-11-07T17:06:05Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''In January 2006, Sheikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi spoke at a conference of the nascent Sanhedrin. He expressed his support for attempts by Jews to establish a relationship between devout Muslims and Jews on the basis of the teachings of Bnei Noah. Sheikh Palazzi has repeatedly expressed support for the Jewish people, the new Jewish Congress and other efforts of the Jewish people to live according to their Biblical heritage and commandments.''</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''In January 2006, Sheikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi spoke at a conference of the nascent Sanhedrin. He expressed his support for attempts by Jews to establish a relationship between devout Muslims and Jews on the basis of the teachings of Bnei Noah. Sheikh Palazzi <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is an Italy-based Sunni and Sufi scholar and Muslim Co-Chair of the Islam-Israel Fellowship, the Root & Branch Association. He </ins>has repeatedly expressed support for the Jewish people, the new Jewish Congress and other efforts of the Jewish people to live according to their Biblical heritage and commandments.''</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''In the following correspondence between a committee that reports to the Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah and Sheikh Palazzi, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Palazzi </del>outlines his thoughts on this and expresses his support:''</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''In the following correspondence between a committee that reports to the Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah and Sheikh Palazzi, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">he </ins>outlines his thoughts on this and expresses his support:''</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Dear R' Abrahamson</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Dear R' Abrahamson  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">too </del>think that interfaith dialogue should not be based on vain talks on general issues, by rather being centered on preparing the ground for the future Redemption of humanity by developing the Noahide substratum of all religions, and of Islam and Christianity in particular.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I think that interfaith dialogue should not be based on vain talks on general issues, by rather being centered on preparing the ground for the future Redemption of humanity by developing <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the Abrahamitic brotherhood and </ins>the Noahide substratum of all religions, and of Islam and Christianity in particular.  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I agree that the teachings of Bnei Noah sound very similar to ''al-Hanifiyya''<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.  It is surely correct</del>, but <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it involves </del>a limitation, since <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it </del>refers to those monotheistic Arabs who neither converted to Judaism or to Unitarian Christianity before the advent of Islam. I think the work <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">to do </del>involves developing the rest, i.e. showing how it is possible for a Muslim to conceive himself as a Noahide.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I agree that the teachings of Bnei Noah sound very similar to ''al-Hanifiyya'', but <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">with a </ins>a limitation, since <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">that Arabic word </ins>refers to those monotheistic Arabs who neither converted to Judaism or to Unitarian Christianity before the advent of Islam. I think the work <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">in progress </ins>involves developing the rest, i.e. showing how it is possible for a Muslim to conceive himself as a Noahide <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">in agreement with Islam</ins>.  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The basic difficulty in the contemporary <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Islam </del>world about this point is the belief in "tahrif" of Torah. In classical Arabic, this world can either mean "alteration" (in the text), or "misinterpretation" (in the sense). While most of contemporary Muslim propagandists take only the first possible meaning into consideration, plenty of authoritative scholars of old (including Imam al-Ghazali and Shaykh Muhiddin Ibn 'Arabi) prefer the second one, and support their point of view through ahadith which are <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">universally </del>accepted as authentic. According to on of them, the Prophet Muhammad asked the Jews of Medina to bring their Torah Scroll and to read from it to confirm a verdict (and the argument is "were that Scroll adulterated, the Prophet would have never judged on its base"). According to another hadith, he met Jews who were bringing a Torah Scroll in procession, kissed the Scroll and said "amantu bika wa amantu bima fik" (I believe in you and in yours contents). The argument here is "were that Scroll adulterated, the Prophet would have never said 'I believe in your contents'.". As a Muslim scholar, I think that showing all these and other legal proof in Islam is the best way to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">lead </del>Muslims to recognize the Divine character of the Torah as the Jews have it today.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The basic difficulty in the contemporary <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Islamic </ins>world about this point is the belief in "tahrif" of Torah. In classical Arabic, this world can either mean "alteration" (in the text), or "misinterpretation" (in the sense). While most of contemporary Muslim propagandists take only the first possible meaning into consideration, plenty of authoritative scholars of old (including Imam al-Ghazali and Shaykh Muhiddin Ibn 'Arabi) prefer the second one, and support their point of view through <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>ahadith<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'' </ins>which are accepted as authentic. According to on of them, the Prophet Muhammad<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, blessings and peace be upon him, </ins>asked the Jews of Medina to bring their Torah Scroll and to read from it to confirm a verdict (and the argument is "were that Scroll adulterated, the Prophet would have never judged on its base"). According to another hadith, he met Jews who were bringing a Torah Scroll in procession, kissed the Scroll and said "<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>amantu bika wa amantu bima fik<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>" (I believe in you and in yours contents). The argument here is "were that Scroll adulterated, the Prophet would have never said 'I believe in your contents'.". As a Muslim scholar, I think that showing all these and other legal proof in Islam is the best way to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">educate </ins>Muslims to recognize the Divine character of the Torah as the Jews have it today.  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The "Constitution of Medina" is surely <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a </del>relevant document, especially since it mentions different religious communities which become partners in a project of common life without loosing their identity.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The "Constitution of Medina" is surely <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">another </ins>relevant document, especially since it mentions different religious communities which become partners in a project of common life without loosing their <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">specific and confessional </ins>identity<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I hope and pray for a deep and meaningful relationship between Jews and Muslims as Bnei Israel and Bnei Noah. In my understanding, the Seven Laws are an integral aspect of Islam, which contains each one of them. Of course, the goal I hope to see becoming true is a situation in which Jews see Muslims as Bnei Noah, and Muslim see Jews as Believers (''mu'minum'') through Torah. For what concerns Christianity, I think the situation is more complicated, since it involves the problem of trinity, etc</ins>.  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I hope and what I pray for </del>a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">deep and meaningful relationship </del>between <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Jews </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Muslims as Bnei Israel and Bnei Noah. In my understanding, the Seven Laws are </del>an <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">integral aspect of Islam, which contains all of them. Of course, the goal I hope </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">see becoming true is a situation in which Jews see Muslims as Bnei Noah, </del>and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Muslim see Jews as Believers (mu'minum) following the path of Torah</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">For what concerns Christianity, I think the situation </del>is <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">more complicated, since it involves the problem of trinity, etc</del>.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Concerning </ins>a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">joint "Bnei Noah" court </ins>between <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a Jewish Rabbinical Court </ins>and an <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Islamic Shari'a Court to allow an opportunity for Israeli-Palestinian grievances </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">be verified </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">ruled upon according to religious law</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">That </ins>is <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a good idea</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">It could be a first step to pass from theory to implementation </ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Concerning <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a joint </del>"<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Bnei Noah</del>" <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">court between a Jewish Rabbinical Court and an </del>Islamic <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Shaaria Court to allow an opportunity </del>for <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Israeli</del>-<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Palestinian grievances to be verified and ruled upon according to religious law</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>That is <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a good idea</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">It could be a first step to pass from theory to implementation</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Concerning <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">educating the Islamic public on the “beauty of Solomon’s Temple”, I think that all possible efforts should be done to educate Muslims on this subject, and also to prove that that same beauty is described in Islamic sources, too, to the point that the theory </ins>"<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Jews have no connection with the Temple Mount</ins>"<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, apart from being quite recent, is also opposed to what </ins>Islamic <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">scholars have been teaching </ins>for <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">centuries. A book published by the Waqf during the British Mandate identifies the ''Haram'' of ''al</ins>-<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Aqsa'' with the place where the Temple originally stood</ins>. That is <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">in agreement with what is narrated by Imam al-Qurtubi in his Qur'anic commentary</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Concerning educating </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Islamic public on the “beauty </del>of <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Solomon’s Temple”, I think that all possible efforts should be done to educate the Islamic public on this subject</del>, and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">also </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">prove that that same beauty is described in Islamic sources, too, to the point that the theory </del>"<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Jews have no connection with the Temple Mount</del>"<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, apart from being quite recent, is also opposed to </del>what <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Islamic scholars have been teaching for centuries. I have read about the existence </del>of a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">book published by the Waqf during the British Mandate which identifies the Haram of al-Aqsa with the place where the Temple originally stood</del>.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I am familiar with </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">teachings </ins>of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Rabbi Benamozegh</ins>, and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">am indebted </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">his </ins>"<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Israel and Humanity</ins>" <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">for </ins>what <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">concerns my vision </ins>of a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">possible development in interfaith relations</ins>.  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Yes, I am familiar with </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">teachings of Rabbi Benamozegh, and am indebted to his "Israel and Humanity" for what concerns my vision of a possible development in interfaith relations.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Concerning </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">threads: </ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Concerning the threads:</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># The similarity between the photos which are compared is really impressive.  </div></td></tr>
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</table>Binyominhttp://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Edut_5770_Cheshvon_9&diff=2824&oldid=prevBinyomin at 13:43, 1 November 20092009-11-01T13:43:07Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Rabbinic Judaism teaches the "Seven Laws of Noah" as a universal measure that is the basis of all proper religion. Some ''poskim'' go so far as to declare some versions of Islam, righteous among the Muslims, as ''Bnei Noah'' or similar to ''Ger Toshav''.  Within Islam itself there is appears to be internal support for this.  The Qur'an and Haddith support ideas strikingly similar to Noahide teachings, perhaps remnants of ancient teachings.  Some see this in the terms al-Hanifiyya or al-Sabiun. There are opinions that one of the main goals of early Islam (for example the Constitution of Medina صحیفة المدینه) was to call the Jews and Christians to unite as believers without losing their identity as Jews and Christians.   </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Rabbinic Judaism teaches the "Seven Laws of Noah" as a universal measure that is the basis of all proper religion. Some ''poskim'' go so far as to declare some versions of Islam, righteous among the Muslims, as ''Bnei Noah'' or similar to ''Ger Toshav''.  Within Islam itself there is appears to be internal support for this.  The Qur'an and Haddith support ideas strikingly similar to Noahide teachings, perhaps remnants of ancient teachings.  Some see this in the terms <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>al-Hanifiyya<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'' </ins>or <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>al-Sabiun<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>. There are opinions that one of the main goals of early Islam (for example the Constitution of Medina صحیفة المدینه) was to call the Jews and Christians to unite as believers without losing their identity as Jews and Christians.   </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The members of the nascent Sanhedrin and the Jerusalem Court concerning Bnei Noah, value your opinion on these matters and regard you as a true friend.  If you have the opportunity, please reply with any answers that you can to assist us.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The members of the nascent Sanhedrin and the Jerusalem Court concerning Bnei Noah, value your opinion on these matters and regard you as a true friend.  If you have the opportunity, please reply with any answers that you can to assist us.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We believe that there is potential for a deep and meaningful relationship between the righteous among the Muslims and Jews as ''Bnei Noah'' and ''Bnei Israel'' based on the teachings of ''Bnei Noah''.  We believe this is a truthful alternative to the mistaken ideology of endless war between Islam and Judaism. We would like to propose a useful intellectual, historical and theological framework for people who are already trying to seek peace between Jews and Muslims, built on the foundation of ''Bnei Noah'' teachings.  The nascent Sanhedrin is discussing this in some detail.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We believe that there is potential for a deep and meaningful relationship between the righteous among the Muslims and Jews as ''Bnei Noah'' and ''Bnei Israel'' based on the teachings of ''Bnei Noah''.  We believe this is a truthful alternative to the mistaken ideology of endless war between Islam and Judaism. We would like to propose a useful intellectual, historical and theological framework for people who are already trying to seek peace between Jews and Muslims, built on the foundation of ''Bnei Noah'' teachings.  The nascent Sanhedrin is discussing this in some detail.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
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</table>Binyominhttp://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php?title=Edut_5770_Cheshvon_9&diff=2813&oldid=prevBinyomin: /* Reply */2009-11-01T08:52:08Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Reply</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Concerning a joint "Bnei Noah" court between a Jewish Rabbinical Court and an Islamic Shaaria Court to allow an opportunity for Israeli-Palestinian grievances to be verified and ruled upon according to religious law.  That is a good idea. It could be a first step to pass from theory to implementation</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Concerning a joint "Bnei Noah" court between a Jewish Rabbinical Court and an Islamic Shaaria Court to allow an opportunity for Israeli-Palestinian grievances to be verified and ruled upon according to religious law.  That is a good idea. It could be a first step to pass from theory to implementation</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Concerning educating the Islamic public on the “beauty of Solomon’s Temple”, I think that all possible efforts should be done to educate the Islamic public on this subject, and also to prove that that same beauty is described in Islamic sources, too, to the point that the theory "Jews have no connection with the Temple Mount", apart from being quite recent, is also opposed to what Islamic scholars have been teaching for centuries. I have read about the existence of a book published by the Waqf during the British Mandate which identifies the Haram of al-Aqsa with the place where the Temple originally stood.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Concerning educating the Islamic public on the “beauty of Solomon’s Temple”, I think that all possible efforts should be done to educate the Islamic public on this subject, and also to prove that that same beauty is described in Islamic sources, too, to the point that the theory "Jews have no connection with the Temple Mount", apart from being quite recent, is also opposed to what Islamic scholars have been teaching for centuries. I have read about the existence of a book published by the Waqf during the British Mandate which identifies the Haram of al-Aqsa with the place where the Temple originally stood.  </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yes, I am familiar with the teachings of Rabbi Benamozegh, and am indebted to his "Israel and Humanity" for what concerns my vision of a possible development in interfaith relations.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yes, I am familiar with the teachings of Rabbi Benamozegh, and am indebted to his "Israel and Humanity" for what concerns my vision of a possible development in interfaith relations.</div></td></tr>
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